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sally-T
#1 Posted : Monday, February 14, 2011 10:16:12 PM Quote
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I got a shock today when I heard that one of my close friends has been speculating with other friends of mine as to whether my RA is in my head, as it was put to me today.

To put you in the picture, I have been ill for the past 18 months or so with no break. Started on Cimzia a couple of weeks ago after trying DMards to no effect. I am mostly in pain if I do anything and sometimes completely immobilized but I don't look too bad, unless you count the drawn face, the hobbling about, the inability to lift anything heavy, the swollen wrists, knees, ankles and fingers ! Don't even talk to me about the side effects from steroids and other drugs. I have a good, well respected consultant and GP. I find it unbelievable that my friends think it is a psychological problem. I suggested to one of them they read up on RA but haven't tackled the other one yet. He has been pushing me to do more things that are difficult for me and not a priority at the moment and now I know why. He thinks I am not trying hard enough, or something along those lines. If only he knew!

Sorry to go on, just needed to let off steam!



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#2 Posted : Monday, February 14, 2011 10:27:32 PM Quote
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Sally - what silly people they are!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It's one of the difficult things we all have - the fact that we don't look any different to others. We just seem to struggle with every day tasks.
Why dont we open doors a 'normal way'.
why can't we dress the way we did previously.
why can't we complete housework/gardening/manual tasks the way we used to. etc etc
we would choose to do it all 'normally' if we were able, if only we could let others experience how we are affected - they would soon be more understanding!
It's just too difficult to explain to people who dont want to begin to understand. Treasure the ones who doThumpUp
JulieM
#3 Posted : Tuesday, February 15, 2011 8:44:06 AM Quote
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Friends you say? Hmmmm, not sure I'd want friends like that. If it was me i would have to sit them both down and have a 'chat' with them and educate them about just what RA does to us.

There is a site called 'But you don't look ill' which is a good one. I'm just off to work now but will post a link later.


Okay, back from work and found the link


http://www.butyoudontloo...y-christine-miserandino/
YES I'VE CHANGED, PAIN DOES THAT TO PEOPLE.
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#4 Posted : Tuesday, February 15, 2011 9:49:29 AM Quote
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Oh Sally,

How horrible. Not sure whether you need friends like this. We all think 'friends' don't always
deal us correctly as to the understanding of this dreadful RA.

As said above I think I would sit them down together and tell them what RA is all about.
If only you could 'do' whatever but that your body will not let you.

Good luck and remember we are here to listen. . . .


Rose

dorat
#5 Posted : Tuesday, February 15, 2011 10:17:26 AM Quote
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Hi Sally,

This is something we all have to deal with and you will find out exactly who your friends are!
If only it was "all in the mind", we might be able to cure that!
Also, once you find the right drugs to get your disease under control you will find that your "friends" think you have "got over it!"
There are also the "well meaning" people who will tell you "oh I've got a bit of that in my thumb" and the endless bits of advice to eat this or drink that and you'll be cured.
At least on here we all know what RA is and what you are going through!

Love, Doreen xx
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#6 Posted : Tuesday, February 15, 2011 10:48:28 AM Quote
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hi Sally,

i agree a chat is in order and literature if possible.

RA is really an unknown disease i feel, to be honest i didn't know much about it other than it is far worse than Osteo and Children can get it.

have to say i've 3 good friends who stand by me same i as do them through the sad and happy times ... always say i can count my true friends on one hand.

if you think it is worth making the effort to enlighten your friend then go for it, but then again ...

Suzanne x
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#7 Posted : Tuesday, February 15, 2011 3:25:40 PM Quote
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Hi Sally,

With friends like that........................

Seriously, I`ve been in a similar situation, in that my so-called friend said I wasn`t trying hard enough to get over my RA, and should just put it out of my mind.

As others say, you could perhaps sit them down and tell it how it really is, but having said that, my "friend" said I was exaggerating! She`s not my friend these days, but my real friends are brilliant and I don`t know what I`d do without them.

Kathleen C x

sally-T
#8 Posted : Tuesday, February 15, 2011 6:15:28 PM Quote
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Thanks so much everyone for your thoughts and advice. It's good to know I am not alone in experiencing this lack of understanding, though sad.

I've considered everything and have decided that I don't need to justify myself to anyone. So, if he wants to think that, he can! Not sure I will give him much consideration, though, when he comes complaining about this and that. Another friend more or less told me she didn't know what all the fuss was about as she has had RA for 30 years. Well, I've known her for 10 and it was the first I'd heard of it. I replied that she was lucky she didn't have it as bad as me.

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#9 Posted : Tuesday, February 15, 2011 6:49:21 PM Quote
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are you sure they really are your friends. I have found that most of my friends have been great. This may be because they did not see me for a long time due to
us relocating and when they did see me I had gone down hill a lot and I think they had a huge shock.
It may be an idea to get some leaflets from nras on RA and let your friends read them and just say to them how upset they have made you feel but you hope these leaflets will help them understand.
I hope things get better for you as I am sure you are feeling bad enough without this
Love Melanie
LynW
#10 Posted : Tuesday, February 15, 2011 9:13:58 PM Quote
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What is it about people? Are they jealous or something? Do they want to 'own' a disease so they can live what they regard as an 'easy life'?

I just don't get it! Psychological? Toxic drugs, injections, fatigue, blood tests, X-Rays, joint damage, sticks, crutches, wheelchairs. Ah yes ... psychological! Buy 'em a dictionary!

These are not friends. They don't understand and likely never will with that sort of attitude!

I had my fill of these sorts of people at the end of last year. Sadly it meant cutting ties that were important to me but anything is better than unsubstantiated accusations, lies and threats against me and general unpleasantness towards me. Sorry that sounds very bitter but when I hear how people are treated by so-called friends it brings it back and I get a bit 'touchy' Mad

Almost all my real friends live here BigGrin

Lyn x
My son, Ian, completed the BUPA Great North Run on 15th September running for the National Rheumatoid Arthritis Society (NRAS). You can read his story at http://www.justgiving.com/ianlukewilson

sally-T
#11 Posted : Tuesday, February 15, 2011 9:38:46 PM Quote
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Thanks Mel and Lyn for your support.

I think part of the problem is that I underplay things as don't want to go on all the time about how much pain I am in. What my friends don't see is the hours it sometimes takes me to get up and about in the morning or the pain I am in at night. They see me out for a coffee etc. not knowing that might be all I do that day and that, even as I sit there, I am in pain and discomfort.

I'm sorry you've had bad experiences too Lyn. It is very hurtful when the people around you doubt you. I am going to try and stand up for myself and shrug off those who have let me down. I have some very good and supportive friends to focus on in the future. They deserve my friendship, not the others.

Forums are a great source of support too and thank you again.
Sally x
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#12 Posted : Tuesday, February 15, 2011 9:56:36 PM Quote
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Dear Sally

Please don't apologise about 'going on'- I'm nt surprised you needed it after that. It must have really hurt.I can't believe a friend can say something like that. As Doreen says- it's something we get all the time- such is RA. Thankfully I have some wonderful friends who do care.
Like others, I often get a lot of this at work (don't get me started on the colleague from hell in my dept who yet again refused to help me out the other day- I'm getting very close to to taking the matter further. There are some lovely caring people out there and we must treasure them. The other day I was in tears-not because I was upset but because one of my colleagues took the trouble to show me some kindness- I was so moved! Funnily enough it was a guy who has suffered racial abuse and ill health himself!
Take care- we're always here for you.

Maria x
sally-T
#13 Posted : Wednesday, February 16, 2011 11:15:07 AM Quote
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Thank you Maria, yes, it is always the ones who have experienced tough things in life who seem to understand. My 'friend' has had a very priviledged (spelling?) life and doesn't understand I don't have unlimited resources. I just find it amazing that someone would doubt my diagnosis. It's extraordinary. Is he saying he knows more than my consultant, GP, specialist nurse? Who knows, and now, who cares :)
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#14 Posted : Wednesday, February 16, 2011 1:10:01 PM Quote
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As everyone has said, I'm not sure I would want to call these people "friends". The trouble is a lot of the time we don't look ill and when you do tell then what you have all they hear is the Arthritis bit and they usually say something like "Yeah I've got that in my knee" or whatever joint and think we're making a fuss about nothing.

True friends will understand and be there for you. And you can always come on here to let off steam amongst people who understand completely what you're going through.

Dawn. x
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#15 Posted : Wednesday, February 16, 2011 1:48:55 PM Quote
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Hi Sally,

I too feel appalled at peoples LACK of understanding of RA. But I was too, I must be honest trying to understand that people could be in so much pain and look so well. I remember when I was at my worst every one of my joints were affected, my hands did not move and I was crippled with the pain. I stood one day after a shower dressed in new pyjamas before getting back into bed, looking in the mirror thinking how well I did look but I was crumbling inside and the pain I was in was excruciating.

I remember thinking I am glad it was me who got this and not my husband, he was an angel to me, opened my tablets daily, fed me a drink, helped me on to my feet, brushed my hair, it was really dire but he could not have been kinder. I would have been the same but I am ashamed to admit I was of the opinion if you can't see pain It can't be that bad. BOY WAS I IN FOR A LEARNING CURVE.

These people don't understand the severity of this RA I do not think they mean to be insensitive it's their lack of knowledge that makes them say the things they do. My life changed dramatically after my disgnoses, I keep really well now but I will NEVER forget how I felt and I feel again and again when I read of how others are suffering again with it. Rise above these insensitive comments, lets hope they never experience the pain of RA, but if they do they will understand. I am really glad we have this forum with people/friends who really do understand they are a wonderful support network.

Take care and look after yourself.

Lorna xx Smile
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#16 Posted : Wednesday, February 16, 2011 1:53:51 PM Quote
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Hi Sally,
Sorry to hear about your so called friends,i totally understand i have experienced this alot.I can know longer work and this isolates you instantly'You don't work'that makes you different to everyone else.You go out with new people and i dread the work topic coming up.i get so embarrassed,that i have been known to lie.I get people ask me what do you do with yourself all day,bl...y cheek!!It is almost as bad as the illness friends not believing you,always having to justify yourself.Then you bore them because they are not really interested anyway.You do find your true friends though.
After 13 years i have become quite thick skinned!
At least on the forum we all have this problem from time to time

Take care Poppyxx
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#17 Posted : Wednesday, February 16, 2011 4:07:00 PM Quote
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sally-T wrote:
Thanks so much everyone for your thoughts and advice. It's good to know I am not alone in experiencing this lack of understanding, though sad.

I've considered everything and have decided that I don't need to justify myself to anyone. So, if he wants to think that, he can! Not sure I will give him much consideration, though, when he comes complaining about this and that. Another friend more or less told me she didn't know what all the fuss was about as she has had RA for 30 years. Well, I've known her for 10 and it was the first I'd heard of it. I replied that she was lucky she didn't have it as bad as me.



hi sally,

perhaps they would like to visit me and see how "in your head" ra is.

my ex husband and much of his family were like this.

some people are just not worth the effort, for those who are- try the spoon theory on them www.butyoudontlooksick.com

jenni xx
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#18 Posted : Wednesday, February 16, 2011 7:07:05 PM Quote
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Hi Sally,

Sorry you are having problems with so called friends, not only have you RA to deal with but a lack of understanding from people who are meant to be close to you.

Look, I printed out a post I think it was from Jenni b (not sure) called Rhuematoid Flair/Flare which really does help to explain how you are feeling, and what you are going through. I printed it out and showed my husband and for the first time since I was diagnosed I believe he really understood what I am going through.

It is a total lack of understanding and people think it is just a few aches and pains, they don't understand the damage that is being done to the body, friends that are close to you need educating if they are to support you.

Hope this helps.

Anne x
It was posted on Dec 30th, I really think it may help you in this case.
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#19 Posted : Wednesday, February 16, 2011 7:23:07 PM Quote
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Sally, these people certainly are not friends!!! As already said, you do get to know who your real friends are. One o f mine still says that as I have osteo alongside the RA, that I must keep moving no matter what. Today I can hardly move, did she get it NO!!
Just take care of yourself x x x
BARBARA
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#20 Posted : Wednesday, February 16, 2011 7:27:05 PM Quote
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all these unpleasant and upsetting experiences and borne out of ignorance, no-one would dream of saying similar sorts of things to people, for instance, suffering from cancer. certain friends of mine's eyes start to glaze over when I start to talk about where I am at with my treatment because they think diet and positive thinking would have sorted it. what we need is eastenders or corrie to have a character discover they have RA, the tv production companies would have oodles of experience from this forum's members to draw on and RA would be on the map. There is heaps on information about RA online and to be fair I guess people don't go looking for it unless it relates to them either directly or indirectly through family members and friends. A soap character would be a way of force-feeding the message!
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